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| PRIESTHOOD - CRITICISM OF PRIESTS |
When a Priest falls we should extend him a helping hand THROUGH PRAYER AND NOT
THROUGH ATTACKS! I myself will be his judge, NO ONE BUT I! "Whoever voices judgment
over a priest has voiced it over me; child, never let a priest be attacked, take up his defense."
"Child Never judge your confessor, rather pray much for him and offer every Thursday,
through the hands of My Blessed Mother, Holy Communion (for Him)" Never again accept an
out of the way word about a Priest, and speak no unkind word (about them) EVEN IF IT WERE
TRUE!Every Priest is My Vicar and My Heart will be sickened and insulted because of it! If you
hear a judgment (against a Priest) pray a Hail Mary."
"If you see a Priest who celebrates the Holy Mass unworthily then say nothing about him,
rather tell it to Me alone! I stand beside him on the altar!" "Oh pray much for my priests, that
they'll love purity above all, that they'll celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with pure
hands and heart. Certainly the Holy Sacrifice is one and the same even when it's celebrated
by an unworthy priest, but the graces called down upon the people is not the same!"
Mary, Queen of Clergy, pray for them.
The preceding is taken out of the back of the Pieta Prayer book.
Many a devout Catholic would be familiar with these words.
Should we follow these admonitions or not?
Do we fully understand what is being stated here?
Does this statement mean that no one can judge a priest that has committed a crime?
I hope to answer these questions through the following presentation.
When speaking of "Private Revelation" we need to remember that although the information
can edify we are under no obligation to follow it.
From New Advent [When the Church approves private revelations, she declares only that
there is nothing in them contrary to faith or good morals, and that they may be read without
danger or even with profit; no obligation is thereby imposed on the faithful to believe them.]
I was unable to find much in an 'Internet search' on Mutter Vogel. I do not think that her
statement was 'approved' by The Catholic Church because part of it is
But whether her revelations are 'approved by The Catholic Church' or not, there is no
obligation to follow.
On the other hand, we do need to remember that a priest stands in 'for the person of Christ'
as St. Paul says, in 2 Corinthians 2:10 "And to whom you have pardoned any thing, I also.
For, what I have pardoned, if I have pardoned any thing, for your sakes have I done it in the
person of Christ (in persona Christi):" [Douay Rheims]
"priests receive the mission and faculty ("the sacred power") to act in persona Christi Capitis;"
CCC 875 -
Now, not judging a priest does not in any way mean that a priest can not be brought to a court
of law. The idea has vast implications, but a lengthy treatment would go beyond the scope of
the present discussion.
Someone might mention, in the Bible it says, that we shouldn't judge. Be careful here. We can
not take one verse out of the Bible and use it by itself or rather, misuse it. Is it true that we
can't judge? Yes. But, what does that mean?
When Jesus said; "Do not judge." Matthew 7:1 "Stop judging, that you may not be judged."
He wasn't saying that we could not ascertain a situation or that we could not form an opinion
because that would invalidate other verses in the Bible, such as, (John 7:24 Do not judge by
appearances, but judge with right judgment."), or Zachariah 7:9 "Thus says the LORD of
hosts, Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy each to his brother,".
Rather, He was saying that we may not say one person or another is going to hell.
We have a duty to judge the sin but not the sinner.
What we need to remember is to pray for and sacrifice for our priests. We need to always
treat them with a special respect. If you are in The Catholic Church long enough you will
certainly observe priests do or say things that are less than perfect, but we need to give them
the extra respect that God would expect of us.
Actually I rather like the idea; "pray much for him and offer every Thursday, through the
hands of My Blessed Mother, Holy Communion (for Him)".
We have a further example in St Catherine of Sienna of someone correcting a Pope.
"She implored the pope, Gregory XI, to leave Avignon,"
New Advent
One last point. At the end of the Statement:
"If you see a Priest who celebrates the Holy Mass unworthily then say nothing about him,
rather tell it to Me alone! I stand beside him on the altar!" "Oh pray much for my priests, that
they'll love purity above all, that they'll celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with pure
hands and heart. Certainly the Holy Sacrifice is one and the same even when it's celebrated
by an unworthy priest, but the graces called down upon the people is not the same!"
"Certainly the Holy Sacrifice is one and the same even when it's celebrated by an unworthy
priest, but the graces called down upon the people is not the same!"
[THIS IS UNTRUE!]
[CCC 1128 This is the meaning of the Church's affirmation 49 that the sacraments act ex
opere operato (literally: "by the very fact of the action's being performed"), i.e., by virtue of
the saving work of Christ, accomplished once for all. It follows that "the sacrament is not
wrought by the righteousness of either the celebrant or the recipient, but by the power of
God."50 From the moment that a sacrament is celebrated in accordance with the intention of
the Church, the power of Christ and his Spirit acts in and through it, independently of the
personal holiness of the minister. Nevertheless, the fruits of the sacraments also depend on
the disposition of the one who receives them.]
BOTTOM LINE: WE CAN CRITICIZE A PRIEST WHEN "CRITICIZE" MEANS "SHARING THE
TRUTH IN LOVE" [EPH. 4:15] WITH "GENTLENESS AND REVERENCE" [1 PETER 3:15].
I am speaking of a situation where you are sharing with the priest himself, not in a case where
you are sharing information with someone else, unless refraining from sharing would cause
scandal or harm.
THROUGH ATTACKS! I myself will be his judge, NO ONE BUT I! "Whoever voices judgment
over a priest has voiced it over me; child, never let a priest be attacked, take up his defense."
"Child Never judge your confessor, rather pray much for him and offer every Thursday,
through the hands of My Blessed Mother, Holy Communion (for Him)" Never again accept an
out of the way word about a Priest, and speak no unkind word (about them) EVEN IF IT WERE
TRUE!Every Priest is My Vicar and My Heart will be sickened and insulted because of it! If you
hear a judgment (against a Priest) pray a Hail Mary."
"If you see a Priest who celebrates the Holy Mass unworthily then say nothing about him,
rather tell it to Me alone! I stand beside him on the altar!" "Oh pray much for my priests, that
they'll love purity above all, that they'll celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with pure
hands and heart. Certainly the Holy Sacrifice is one and the same even when it's celebrated
by an unworthy priest, but the graces called down upon the people is not the same!"
Mary, Queen of Clergy, pray for them.
The preceding is taken out of the back of the Pieta Prayer book.
Many a devout Catholic would be familiar with these words.
Should we follow these admonitions or not?
Do we fully understand what is being stated here?
Does this statement mean that no one can judge a priest that has committed a crime?
I hope to answer these questions through the following presentation.
When speaking of "Private Revelation" we need to remember that although the information
can edify we are under no obligation to follow it.
From New Advent [When the Church approves private revelations, she declares only that
there is nothing in them contrary to faith or good morals, and that they may be read without
danger or even with profit; no obligation is thereby imposed on the faithful to believe them.]
I was unable to find much in an 'Internet search' on Mutter Vogel. I do not think that her
statement was 'approved' by The Catholic Church because part of it is
But whether her revelations are 'approved by The Catholic Church' or not, there is no
obligation to follow.
On the other hand, we do need to remember that a priest stands in 'for the person of Christ'
as St. Paul says, in 2 Corinthians 2:10 "And to whom you have pardoned any thing, I also.
For, what I have pardoned, if I have pardoned any thing, for your sakes have I done it in the
person of Christ (in persona Christi):" [Douay Rheims]
"priests receive the mission and faculty ("the sacred power") to act in persona Christi Capitis;"
CCC 875 -
Now, not judging a priest does not in any way mean that a priest can not be brought to a court
of law. The idea has vast implications, but a lengthy treatment would go beyond the scope of
the present discussion.
Someone might mention, in the Bible it says, that we shouldn't judge. Be careful here. We can
not take one verse out of the Bible and use it by itself or rather, misuse it. Is it true that we
can't judge? Yes. But, what does that mean?
When Jesus said; "Do not judge." Matthew 7:1 "Stop judging, that you may not be judged."
He wasn't saying that we could not ascertain a situation or that we could not form an opinion
because that would invalidate other verses in the Bible, such as, (John 7:24 Do not judge by
appearances, but judge with right judgment."), or Zachariah 7:9 "Thus says the LORD of
hosts, Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy each to his brother,".
Rather, He was saying that we may not say one person or another is going to hell.
We have a duty to judge the sin but not the sinner.
What we need to remember is to pray for and sacrifice for our priests. We need to always
treat them with a special respect. If you are in The Catholic Church long enough you will
certainly observe priests do or say things that are less than perfect, but we need to give them
the extra respect that God would expect of us.
Actually I rather like the idea; "pray much for him and offer every Thursday, through the
hands of My Blessed Mother, Holy Communion (for Him)".
We have a further example in St Catherine of Sienna of someone correcting a Pope.
"She implored the pope, Gregory XI, to leave Avignon,"
New Advent
One last point. At the end of the Statement:
"If you see a Priest who celebrates the Holy Mass unworthily then say nothing about him,
rather tell it to Me alone! I stand beside him on the altar!" "Oh pray much for my priests, that
they'll love purity above all, that they'll celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with pure
hands and heart. Certainly the Holy Sacrifice is one and the same even when it's celebrated
by an unworthy priest, but the graces called down upon the people is not the same!"
"Certainly the Holy Sacrifice is one and the same even when it's celebrated by an unworthy
priest, but the graces called down upon the people is not the same!"
[THIS IS UNTRUE!]
[CCC 1128 This is the meaning of the Church's affirmation 49 that the sacraments act ex
opere operato (literally: "by the very fact of the action's being performed"), i.e., by virtue of
the saving work of Christ, accomplished once for all. It follows that "the sacrament is not
wrought by the righteousness of either the celebrant or the recipient, but by the power of
God."50 From the moment that a sacrament is celebrated in accordance with the intention of
the Church, the power of Christ and his Spirit acts in and through it, independently of the
personal holiness of the minister. Nevertheless, the fruits of the sacraments also depend on
the disposition of the one who receives them.]
BOTTOM LINE: WE CAN CRITICIZE A PRIEST WHEN "CRITICIZE" MEANS "SHARING THE
TRUTH IN LOVE" [EPH. 4:15] WITH "GENTLENESS AND REVERENCE" [1 PETER 3:15].
I am speaking of a situation where you are sharing with the priest himself, not in a case where
you are sharing information with someone else, unless refraining from sharing would cause
scandal or harm.
Our Lord's revelations to Mutter Vogel
"One should NEVER attack a priest, even when he's
in error, rather one should pray and do penance that
I'll grant him My grace again. He alone fully
represents Me, even when he doesn't live after my
example!
"One should NEVER attack a priest, even when he's
in error, rather one should pray and do penance that
I'll grant him My grace again. He alone fully
represents Me, even when he doesn't live after my
example!
